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KingIsBest - By Tekken 98, I'll have a gazillion-and-7 multi-chain throw
TALK - 10:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I made you a talk bubble. It doesn't have a sprite, so if you could find and upload one, I'll add it to the template. If you would like any other changes also feel free to ask.

Here it is:


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Welcome[edit]

Welcome to Tekkenpedia, hope you enjoy your stay! Samuel 11:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Thanks for the welcome Samuel

Death by Degrees Pages[edit]

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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Hey I've created some pages that have been missing from death by degrees, like Kometa, Salacia and Amphitrite. Please can you guys give me a hand in fixing them up, because it was a bit of a rush job, and I'm pretty sure I've left stuff out. They might even need some rewriting, because at the moment they are stub articles. Thanks-Shinzen

Japanese[edit]

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
11:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
It's "ありがとごう", not "ありがと". And "貴方" is usually (though not always) written using hiragana, otherwise, it usually means "dear" or "honey" (as in when a wife says it to her husband). Other than that, どういたしまして。
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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(Typo) ごめんなさいせんせい。I know sensei is techer but you are my tekkenpedia teacher! :D じゃあ、またね!私の日本語はそんあにへたですか。
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
09:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Technically, "sensei" means "master", but is used most often for teachers and doctors (in our day and age). The kanji for it, 先生, means "before" (先), and "born" (生). It refers to that older/senior people are more experienced and therefor know more. In regards to your question, 心配しないで。練習すれば, だいじょうぶです。
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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ヘッコ先生、ありがとうございます。ヘッコ先生の日本語先生はだれですか。Sorry other users this is totally unrelated, Hecko: I'll create a section on my talk page for 日本語
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
13:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
It would be inapropriate to refere to me as Sensei, sempai (先輩) would be better. And I have 4(-5) different Japanese teachers at the current time.
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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すごいですね。はい、先輩
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Why are so many of the translations wrong in Tekken 5? Like for example: Devil Jin's interludes
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
04:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
They're not really "wrong" as much as they are slightly off in some parts of the dialogue, but the overall meaning is still there. It's what I like to call "creative translations". Also, what's with the nonsense at the end of your comment?
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Don't worry I'll just remove it

devil, angel , kazuya, jin, and hybrid between angel and devil: devil jin[edit]

User: Ace jackson:theres a comic book called tekken forever on this exact site, go to tekken forever and you will know that angel has relations with jun, just type tekken forever on the search bar see it for yourself.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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I must admit, you guys put forward a good case and the fact that it was Namco made is convincing. I do also admit that I didn't read the whole thing but rather skim read. There are a few points that he comic fails on:
*It is never directly said that Angel is related to Jun in any way
*Paul never beat Kazuya
*P.Jack and Jack 2 weren't allies
*Jin's Devil Gene was first activated before meeting Kazuya
*This must have been set in Tekken 2 because Bruce and Ganryu were only employed by Kazuya in Tekken 2
*Jin never met Kazuya before Tekken 4

The other fact you seem to have overlooked is the fact that Tekken Forever only got one edition out and Namco probably changed the storyline because it may have ben unsuccessful. I don't wish to dicourage you from making edits by this but that is my opinion and I would like to see what other users think.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
13:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
P.S. Tekken Forever isn't canon...
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Ooops I forgot that part...


User:Ace jackson:ooops tekken forever is just a comic made by namco is real and it is a canon, thats sad hecko.... O i didnt mean that they were related i meant that they had relations with each other. basicly the comic is just telling that angel and jun has relations and the story if people pay very close to the story they would know alot of things about tekken.

ADMIN EDITS: Rest of the post was a direct copy/paste of the entire Devil Gene article, and the section "Desctription" of the Azazel article with no alterations or emphasis of any kind. These have therefore been removed and linked to.

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Serian - You're gonna fight but I'm gonna win
TALK - 23:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
......M'kay.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
00:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
Sigh... Ace, you make it so delightfully easy to make jokes on your obvious lack of intelligence and critical information gathering, but I have to set an example here, so I'll make it brief and "respectable".
  1. Just because something is made by Namco and brands the Tekken name doesn't make it canon to the Tekken storyline, a prime example being Tekken Tag Tournament.
  2. Tekken Forever was not made by Namco, it was based on Namco characters, which is a maaaaajor difference. Other than giving permission to use the characters, Namco had absolutely NOTHING to do with the project, the story of it, or anything else. In short, the story is not canonical, and the guy who wrote it has no proffesional relation to Namco (in the sense of "he does not work for them").

While I think it's good that you stand up for what you believe to be correct, you're basing everything you have on non-canonical storylines and complete fan theory, so you have long since passed the line of redundant arguments. Please, for the love of all that is good in this world, stick to factual information.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Hecko; Thanks
Ace; Hecko is right and I have listed differences as well


User:Ace jackson:i understand wat u guys are sayin but who the say that u are a 100% right on the story no body really knows the story well its all in a mix puzzle, u see first everybody said that kazuya started the devil cursed but wen tekken 4 came out it was now a gene which means it pass on to one person to a another, then jinpachi came along the story and stated his last words to his best friend that he must stop his evil blood line which was long time ago, Kazuya had his encounter with the devil later to be known as Devil by name when he was about 5 years old, making it roughly the same time as Jinpachi came in contact with the devil that possessed him or just a few years earlier.The Devil Gene is a genetical abnormality isolated in the people of the Mishima bloodline. While the exact specifications of this gene are never truly explained, it is generally assumed that the gene allows for a person to have a symbiosis or a parasite/host type relationship with a malignant spirit refered to as a "devil" as well as having it (the gene) control the transformations of one to the other. jun and asuka are both in the same family and both possesses the same ablity having the power to transform both kazuya and jin back to they normal state which has that same blood which is why he might have the black wings now whos to say that might not be a gene, hey it might be. as for azazel nobody really know how or were he come from even thow he possesses the same abilties as as all the devils. the fact is, is that this hold story comes in pieces of puzzles, but wat i know is wat i know and wat u know is wat u know, and i think that i am right and you think that im wrong.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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The story obviously has to evolve because there wasn't much of a storyline for Tekken and Tekken 2, because it is quite possible that Namco underestimated the popularity of the game and continued with a series and did not want to risk being scrutinised by rival games and critics for a lack of storyline. Namco couldn't just have Kazuya with the Devil Gene because then players would be under the impression that he is the ain protagonist and theoretically be the strongest. As for the Asuka and Jun being in the same family; that is incorrect because the are part of the "KAZAMA" family where as Kazuya and Jinpachi are part of the "MISHIMA" family. The only exception is Jin because he has parents from both families, thus making him almost a 'black sheep' of the bloodlines. By the way Tekken Tag is non-canon so the evidence of Jun being able to revert the transformation is destoryed and seing as Kazuya has never been reverted from his transformation by a third party might suggest that Jin is only able to be reverted because he is part Kazama. By all means believe you are right but do not post and scepticism on any pages.


User:Ace jackson:thats exactly wat i mean jun and asuka are in the same family which is kazuma and kazuya and jinpachi are in the same family which is mishima. read jun on wikipedia and u would know that angel is also jun good half, read her Occupation on the right side.

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
22:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
WWWC officer ≠ Heavenly being


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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I believe Hecko is right... If you have any more proof feel free to enter it in this debate but the fact remains "ANGEL IS PART OF KAZUYA," meaning the humanity, conscience and moral left in him that is conflicting with devil and how devil wants Kazuya to be.

What is the devil gene???[edit]

Teriko

Admin edit: This post has been edited because it contained nothing but copy/pasted material several thousand units long with no alterations, additions, or even a point in sight. The original post was in two sections, the first being a copy/paste from the Wikipedia section on the Devil Gene, the second being a copy/paste of the Tekkenpedia's own article on the Devil Gene.

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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Sorry Teriko, but I don't understand what you are asking, can you post the question in this section and I'll do my best to answer it.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
18:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I believe it was a rhetorical question. S/he asked, and "answered" her-/himself by having copy/pasted the two articles.


User: Terikook now, if you guys read the devil gene, you would understand that the devil gene did not start from kazuya it started from jinpachi, kazuya's grandfather and heihachi's father, but in wang's prologue story board on tekken 5, its says that jinpachi's last words to him was that he must put a end to his evil blood line, that means that he was on the same mission as jin.. Some people think that jin, kazuya and jinpachi sure the same devil spirit but if you read the devil gene page on this very web page it will tell you that they have defferent devils, by means that the devil gene controls them, they have devil genetics. genes are small bloods cell that are within chromsomes that determines the plant or animal characteristics.. And if you read the charater Devil's page on wikipedia.com or this web page it will say, only the devil that inhabits kazuya's body is refer to as just Devil... Read more on wikipedia.com and this very web page, look up devil gene,the character Devil,and devil jin.. As for the character angel Ace is kind of right i'm sayin this because he's my brother but you have to read and understand the story of tekken, its not that this imformation is facts is just that if you read the event of angel and jun they have the same mission and that to save kazuya's soul, now i know what your thinking, jun did not enter the tournament to save kazuya's soul at first,, but she enter to arrest kazuya and found her self intimated with kazuya, and if you read jun's page on wikipedia.com it will say that jun is highly psychic meaning that she felt the devil gene in kazuya threaten to take control.. also when jun desapeared from kazuya's life, angel desapeared from kazuya's life, i'm sayin that they are the same person but there is a connection,.. Please look up Jun Kazama on wikipedia.com it will suggest that jun is like an angel and she will not give up tryin to free kazuya from the devil just like angel.... I'll be updating, my name is Teriko I'm the triplet brother to Ace

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
22:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
We wrote the Devil Gene article, we know what it says... Having you trying to explain the points of the article to us, is like having a young boy try to teach simple equations to a math graduate, i.e. completely illogical and useless. And yes, we "surprisingly" also know what the other pages on the Tekkenpedia says, cause guess what, we wrote them too!

In Tekken 2, the concept of a Devil Gene did not exist in any way shape or form, so when the story was written, what Jun sensed was Devil himself, not the Devil Gene. Additionally, what Jun did was that she "nutured" the good side of Kazuya, which came to be personified as Angel. So while Jun may have been responsible for Angel appearing, Angel is, and has always been, a part of Kazuya. Saying the Angel and Jun are the same is EXACTLY like saying the Devil and Heihachi are the same; completely incorrect. Heihachi is indirectly responsible for Kazuya becoming the host of Devil, but Heihachi and Devil are not the same person. The same way, Jun is indirectly responsible for Kazuya becoming the host of Angel, but Jun and Angel are not the same person. If you want to read it in an article, feel free to do so: Angel#Tekken_2


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Jun is in a way, a catalyst for the strenghtening and "being" of Angel in Kazuya


User:Ace jackson:Angel is just kazuya's guardian Angel, she was sent down from the heavens to save kazuya's soul because she is his guardian angel, not cause she is part of him. that statement was writin on wikipedia.com some time ago, but somebody erase her original article. And reason why jun have something to do with angel is because its juns destiny to save kazuya's soul, so why not work together on the same mission they both have the same mission and power, remember with the help of angel jun won against devil, jun cant beat devil by her self. And in case if you didnt know the devil curse was way long before in the mishima family blood line, what im sayin is that jinpachi's last words before comin up missin was to stop his evil blood line, the question is who was he talking about wen he made that statement jinrei wang in tekken 5, he wasnt talking about kazuya because he was to young, so who he was referring to who had the devil gene beside kazuya, and heihachi cant start devil gene by throwing somebody down a cliff, i mean come on its a gene. theres a lot of theories you know, its possible that angel is off of juns power, meaning jun has great power and are the chosing one, great power can create great thing, which works off the mind.


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ILHI - "Leave behind your fears. Please believe; you will not falter. There's no danger here, you can breathe in clear blue water."
TALK - 20:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, hmm... Yes.

Angel is part of Kazuya's soul.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
22:13, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Okay, that's it, for months I've been trying to be nice and somewhat composed concerning, but the level of ignorance has reached dangerous levels, and I'm freaking tired having to deal with this shit all the time.

ANGEL IS PART OF KAZUYA'S SOUL!! The games say it, Namco says it, and every site that deals SOLELY WITH FACTUAL EVIDENCE say it (Yes, this includes Wikipedia!) Fucking deal with it already! NO, Jun and Angel are not the same person, and NO, Angel is not Jun's "sidekick" in the quest to combat evil, these are FAN THEORIES and utter bullshit.

And no one here said that Heihachi started the Devil Gene by throwing Kazuya over a cliff, seriously, do you come up with this crap yourself or what? Are you like 12-13 years old?


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Hecko is right, where do you get your theories from? This has been debated constantly and causes many fan-theories. FACT: Angel is part of Kazuya, not in anyway related to Jun.

User: Teriko Look hecko, I know you mad but dont take it seriously. You guys are going by the game events, and if you go to tekken.com it doesnt tell tekken 2 story not the whole thing anyways, it doesnt say angel is apart of kazuya s. And whats up with you saying jun got rape, yeah i remember when you said jun got rape when we where in devil jin discussion. jun did not get rape she was intimate with kazuya, meaning they where in love or sexually active torward one another.. I"M not finish yet but i ggot to go i'll finish telling you guys later about tekken stories . wait i bet you guys dont know kazuya's mother's name....


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ILHI - "Leave behind your fears. Please believe; you will not falter. There's no danger here, you can breathe in clear blue water."
TALK - 18:11, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Kazume Fucking Mishima, we have a page on her. But of course, it doesn't matter as Tekken:TMP is not canon, so this is not confirmed by canon Tekken storyline.

Jun was raped by Kazuya. This going by the Japanese version (amirite?) of the game, the version Namco intended and wrote. Namco created the story, they decided this.

This: "Angel is the other half to Kazuya's soul and represents his good side. Though seemingly possessed with a black heart, there is still some good left in Kazuya. Angel will battle against Devil so that she may have Kazuya's soul."

This is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth damn you!


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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@ILHI: Calm down. And yes I understand your frustration but obviously Teriko and Ace do not understand the Tekken storyline and wish to believe false fan-fiction because they do not like or understand the true storyline.
@Teriko: Your assumptions are flawed and pathetically lacking critical points. ILHI is right and if tekken.com is so correct, give me the link to it, and I'll check it out. By the way tekken.com is not the only place to gain canon information; Tekken Zaibatsu, Sunlight Yellow and Tekken Official are just a few...


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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By the way, you haven't taken into account that Angel fights Jun as her sub boss in Tekken 2. Why would she fight herself? So that proves you are wrong. ANDAngels win animations are the same as Devils and some of Kazuyas.

User:Teriko, 1. angel is a part of kazuya's soul. now many people believe that and some dont, well name a tekken game where it actually states that, in words or from namco.. you see in tekken 1 the game did not state that angel is apart of kazuya's soul in word nor did it show it, even in tekken 2 it did not state it in words or have shown it. heck the movie dont state it.. that means that it is an inference. an inference is somewhat of a theory, something that is infered, meaning someone infered that angel is apart of kazuya's soul because they didnt know the story right so they assume that angel is apart of kazuya's soul. In what game does it says that angel is kazuya's good part of his soul, and what games does it actually state in words that angel is apart of kazuya's soul.. some people think that angel is apart kazuya soul because angel share the same character square with devil and that they are two entities within kazuya's soul, now kuma and panda share the same character square but does that mean they are two entities that is sharing a bear's body, eddy and christy share the same character square but does that mean that they are two entities sharing a human's body


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Angel's storyline states: Angel is the other half of Kazuya Mishima's soul. See here.


User:Teriko sorry but I'm talking about the tekken series.. it deosnt state that in None of the tekken series. kenshi tschi one of the orgin producer, told me that I will find the answers if I had the complete series of tekken then I will have all the answers I need, it is there, meaning games and comics, i have them all. and it deosnt tell angel story except for tekken forever,.. I'm a web disigner, with my studies, I've recently found out that some of the tekken web site is made by fans.. I'm sorry but that is just a conclusion that angel is apart of kazuya's soul, you see someone made an inference that Angel was apart of kazuya's soul, in the tekken stories it doesnt really say where angel's really from. now my conclusions is posted on my page, i have theories but they are not facts. but think about the kazama family, in the series the kazamas have been shown to have the ability to reverse the devil gene, why is that? that takes me back when jun defeats devil, how did she do it? how did a mere woman defeat the devil? is it because she in the kazama family or she has the kazama blood. same with asuka kazama, she touch jin and he turn back from his devil form, why is the kazamas the opposite of the mishimas? interesting huhn, thats why I have the theory that angel has a aqantance with the kazamas... why is it that kazuya has an angel with his soul and jin dont? jin has the devil gene and the kazama blood which is shown to have an affect on his devil gene in tekken 4 when the devil in kazauya tries to transform jin into his devil but his kazama blood stops it. Devil seem to be aware of the kazama blood as if he knew about it, as if he knew what it can do.. I see that I have to still find the answers, but they are there..


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Humor me, who do you believe Angel to be then?
Now my rebuttle:

It is stated that the Kazama's are special, true, but not that they are divine. And by the way, you do not have the complete series, it's impossible, because the series is not complete yet, and Tekken Forever is not cannonical, as already disscussed. The most simple reason is that Tekken Forever contradicts the actual Tekken series, and all the reasons stated in the above arguement. Just because you are in possession of all presently available Tekken material does not mean that you can make false statements and expect to be believed. And as for the fan sites, alot of them are hit and miss, as some are cannonical and others not. Of course it isn't going to state who each character is in great detail, it wants you to research them or find out on your own, they don't need to tell you much backstory, thats where Namco, Tekken Official, TekkenZaibatsu, Sunlight Yellow, and Tekkenpedia (etc.) come in. And for the record, you being a web designer is completely irrelevant, as a small child can type Tekken into google and find a Tekken web site on their own.


User:Teriko

as a matter fact I am 18 yrs old and I go to el centro college in dallas texas, I'm learning how to build web pages, and taking medical classes.... tekkenZaibatsu is unofficial and not affiliated to namco. Tekken and it's characters are a registered trademark and copyright of namco, and tekken official is made by namco, if you read about the sites you will know... Now you seem to mis understood me, I said those are just theories that i have, not facts, I'm not saying that angel's relation with jun is a fact, I said that it is a inference, meaning conclusion... and if you would know officially namco didnt have an origin article for angel.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Not an article that you can find (or translate [i guess]). Just because it is not directly overseen by Namco, does not make it false. And who really cares how old you are and where you study and what subjects, as I said, a small child can type Tekken into google and find a Tekken web site on their own.


User:Teriko

look i'm sorry I burst your bubble dude,... I'm sayin that before you read something you should know where its coming from dude,.. look man I was tryin to let you look at it from my side of the conclusion that is all, but if you want a producer to tell you then... She told that that Jun, Angel and Unknown were one and the same. they say that If you don't believe , ask her. Her e-mail is [email protected] The only way we'll know the truth is through future Tekken games... its just as simple as that.


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Key words: my side, conclusion, producer. The words my side and conclusion make it sound like an arguement that you are putting forth, and hoping people change their minds, insinuating that we already have a firm idea of the truth. Producer, what does she have to do with the storyline? If you maybe asked the director or storyline person (don't know the officcial name) At Tekkenpedia, we generally add things (like stories) for an outside source, wither translated by us or other sites, the other way of a story going up, is that it's obvious of the character's intention. Angel fights Jun as her sub boss in Tekken 2, Angels win animations are the same as Devils and some of Kazuyas, and Angel fights using Mishima Style Karate. Those few differences are crucial and just off the top of my head...
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
11:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
デビルと表裏一体の存在。= Existing within a single body with (her) other side, Devil.

Straight from the original Japanese Tekken 2 bio for Angel (first line, in fact), as written by Namco (i.e. official), so STFU about it already. You're wrong, friggin' deal with it already.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Thanks Hecko, I couldn't find the japanese text.

...is it just me, or do most arguments on this site have to do with the Devil Gene? --Rai

User:Teriko

ok, I'm way ahead of you guys... you see, namco is going to reveal the secret about the kazama family in asuka kazama story in the future.. and when they do, you guys are going to feel crunchy. and dont try to say namco change they story because they already wrote it.

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
01:19, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Dude(tte?), just give it up already. You are desperately grasping for straws that aren't there. You are spewing all kinds of oddball theories, and besides being based on absolute nothing substantial, they're just plain annoying, so please stop.


User:Teriko

dude its not going to change the fact that, namco is going to reveal the secrets behind the kazama family, Katsuhiro Harada Already said that the only way fans we'll know about the kazamas and the mishimas is through the futures of tekken games. there nothing you got that can change what namco already made.. All the inferences all the conclusions about tekken will be reveal, some inferences and conclusion will be true some will not.. its only a matter of time.. and hecko there nothing you say that going to change it, nothing dude. End

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
00:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, I'm gonna tell you one last time. Either provide official sources, or STFU. Honest to God, we are getting sick off listening to you.


User:Teriko


ok, I didnt know that you was taking this personal dude, honest to God I didnt know you was taking this to a personal level hecko, now I'm just going go to my page and finish my tekken sources for those who dont have personal problems about this... I'm sorry hecko if offended you. just dont take this on a personal level dude, this is tekken we're talking about... Now I'm going to make have of my page about a new title I came up with call tekken theories, feel free to check it out if you want or keep a watch out on it,.. later dude

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
00:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
No offense, but are you honestly this incompetent..? How in the world could I possibly be taking this personally? All I said was to either provide an official source for your information (so that you can prove yourself to be right) and if you can't, then shut the fuck up, since your nonsense is nothing other than disruptive and tiresome, yet you keep repeating it without backing it up with anything substantial. It would be like me going to your talk-page every few days to say that you are an idiot, which will be revealed within the next 50 years of your life. STOP... DOING IT! It's a simple command, why can you not understand it?
Right, this ends here. You can write whatever theories you like on your own talk/user page however I don't want you inciting people on the site. Hecko, just ease off a bit. Samuel 02:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Teriko


I'm sorry, i didnt mean any harm, i didnt mean to offend you hecko, i didnt know that this upsetting you

Help[edit]

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
15:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
If it puts your mind at ease, I can tell you right away that I'm the one who's right. Feel free to look it up in a dictionary, since she's been nice enough to add the kanji.

As for correcting, I was trying to make you save face by not pointing out the flaws you make, which can be rather embarrasing at times like these where it's a "public" place. You could learn just as well by just seeing the differences in revision and filling in the blanks or looking them up. But sure, if you want me to write it in a post of my own, I can do that instead, though I doubt you'll like it as much as you think.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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(Hope this is right) わかった。ありがとうございました。日本語をいつはじめいましたか。As for saving me face, thanks I think I prefer it this way.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
07:04, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
I did not seriously start studying until a year ago, but this is not really the place to continue with that kind of discussion, since it will probably bother Rai as it has nothing to do with her.
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RaiJinX - ♥煩悩の紙和本脳野上♥
TALK - 18:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I was ok with it. But thanks for the concern :D.
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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ohh ok thanks and your welcome kinda, even though this is Hecko's place to say XD

Talk Bubble[edit]

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Khawam71 - Fear the Wrath of God
TALK - do what i say orelse
shinzen i know how to use the talk bubble thanks for it.


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Malkhawam - Fear the Wrath of God
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.Yeah.


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Ok that's good to hear. Your welcome.

Location question[edit]

Hi Shinzen, are you from Melbourne by any chance? Do you study Karate and Kenpo here? Samuel 11:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
No, sorry I am from Sydney and I study Chinese Kenpo and Karate at the same club. - User:Shinzen

This is imformation is for my page[edit]

This is imformation is from my wikipedia user page. i am simply just copying things from my wikipedia user page, that is all. this imformation is only for my page, now shall I get back to work, thank you


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Excuse Me! What do you mean get back to work? Why are you reposting it anyway? As I said, I/we have debated and constantly proved your theories wrong, but you persist...

P. Jack's dislike[edit]

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
06:28, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
The source given seems to be loose translations of the official Japanese character bios.
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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I was thinking that or assumptions. Off-topic: Can a normal user protect an article? Thanks Hecko
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
10:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
No, a normal user cannot protect an article.

Well, Kuri is Japanese so I don't think that they're loose translations. I could always ask him if you want me to. But alrighty, that's fine. I accept if the majority disagrees. - KevlarX290

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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
12:15, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
The way I read it was that Heihachi allowed P.Jack to enter the tournament and face Jack because Heihachi was the one who hated Jack (and thus wanted him out of the way). I just asked three of my friends, who're better at Japanese than me, to read it, and they say the same. Just to make absolutely sure, I will ask my Japanese grammar teacher later today, cause it could just be us.
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Thanks.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
23:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
So far, everyone I asked who knows Japanese (6 other people) say it is Heihachi that hates Jack. I will ask my other teacher tomorrow, who's a native speaker, just to make extra extra sure.
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Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants
12:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
A winner iz I! Just asked my Japanese teacher, who is native Japanese, and she agrees with me that it is Heihachi that hates Jack and not P. Jack who hates Jack.
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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Ok thanks for clearing that up.

Character Weight and Height[edit]

I'm happy to have the characters weight and height in metric alongside the imperial measurements. If someone adds them, I think they should be left there. Samuel 09:43, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


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Shinzen - みせものねえよ
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Ok, wasn't sure so just kept it the way it was. But I'll let it from now on then.